At Issue Oct 10| 2024 :Poilievre accuses Trudeau of paralyzing parliament

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at issue tonight the House of Commons

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grinds to a halt it sounds like there's

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a new story every week to justify

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paralyzing Parliament to cover up the

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truth a standoff over releasing

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documents to the RCMP with both parties

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accusing the other of delaying the work

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of the house it is the government's view

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that we should send this to committee so

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that we can get on with the important

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work of this house and protect the

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rights of

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Canadians so what's we made of this

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stoppage inside the house how could it

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affect the block Kaz ultimatum uh to get

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more from the government I'm Rosary

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Barton here to break it down tonight

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shant T bear Andrew coin alaj um so

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pharmacare did pass in the in the Senate

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on on Thursday night so that's something

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uh but there haven't they haven't really

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the government hasn't really been able

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to do much else because of this uh

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privilege debate on a couple of issues

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um Alia what do you make of the way this

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is being handled by the conservatives

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and the

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government well at the core of it it is

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an important issue I don't want to take

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the substance away um there is a fund

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that was created many years ago more

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than 20 years ago actually that has

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successfully worked to invest in

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startups and seed companies to that made

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Green Technology that worked and then it

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went through a period where it didn't

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work and the AG released a very scathing

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report earlier this year saying hey a

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number of company got millions of

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dollars that they shouldn't have gotten

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that either they didn't meet the

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definition of being eligible for the

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money or actually cases where there were

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conflict of interests including with the

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chair so the conservatives have um

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gotten a a ruling from the speaker

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saying they have this uh a real cause

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for uh wanting to have access to these

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documents and they've been monopolizing

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the house time to have a motion passed

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to go to committee to talk about all the

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documents related to this case except

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that the liberal government actually

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says we support you and the

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conservatives are basically

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filibustering own motion today they

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introduce a sub amendment to their other

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sub amendment to their Amendment on the

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motion and it is every time they do this

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the clock starts again and every single

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MP in the House of Commons gets to have

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a 20-minute speech with a 10-minute

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question and answer so who's fil

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bustering whom I think is a little bit

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the question here and why um the

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conservatives would love for the

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Liberals to bring forward a motion to

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shut down the debate because they would

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need to find one party to support them

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and then they would attack that party

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for shutting down debate over things

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that they alleged like corruption

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they've been saying words like this is

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worse than the sponsorship Scandal which

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we don't have evidence of just yet to be

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clear um so there's that gamesmanship at

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play I think there's also some wishing

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that this fashing will mean the Liberals

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perogue and that they can attack the

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Liberals for that as well so there's all

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sorts of shenanigan working around this

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but the consider could also just stop

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talking and send this motion to

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committee where it would be you know

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debated as it should and discussed as it

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should that that was a very good

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synopsis of of what's going on and maybe

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the why I should also point out that the

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RCMP have said we don't want to get

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documents this way this is not going to

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help us in an investigation um and

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Andrew what if you make what do you make

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of either as althia points out the

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gamesmanship or the substance of the

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issue which I I think everyone agrees is

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important for sure well I don't doubt

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there's games being played but there's

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also an absolutely fundamental issue

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which is when Parliament demands

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documents the government has to hand

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them over the government doesn't get to

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decide on what basis or on what grounds

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it passes them over and it has not

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agreed to do so it has found all kinds

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of reasons to justify why it should not

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hand over this document or that document

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or why this document should be redacted

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Etc which it maintains to this day the

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only issue that's in dispute within the

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parliament is not whether or not the the

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document should be handed over but the

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secondary part of it whether they should

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whether Parliament once it has the

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documents should then pass them on to

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the RCMP that's fine Parliament can

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debate and decide that and go rent

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committee but the government's

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obligation still stands regardless of

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what happens to to the documents after

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they after they've gone to Parliament

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the government has to hand over the

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documents to Parliament this is far from

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the first time either this government or

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the government before that has played

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this game we went through this under the

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Harper government with the Afghan

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detainees documents we went after we we

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went through it with the F35 costing we

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went through with this government with

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the wi charity documents we've gone

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through it with uh um the the the

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Winnipeg Laboratory Affair where they

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went to they took the speaker to court

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so time and time again governments in

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this country have been essentially

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defying the law this is not

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controversial this is not in dispute

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this is absolutely fundamental to our

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system of government it's as Bedrock as

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the constitution convention the the

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power of parliament to send for for

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persons papers and things goes back

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centuries and governments on both the

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left and the right are defying it and

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it's got to stop Shantel

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I think uh every party believes it has

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something to gain from this paralysis

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the conservatives obviously believe that

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they're on to something and that they

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can make the case uh

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corruption dismissal of parliament

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although the RCMP element is probably

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the element that they didn't need

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because yes uh Parliament should be able

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to order governments to produce

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documents but to say so that they can be

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passed on to the RC MP really gets in

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the in in in the way of the independence

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of an inquiry by the RCMP but set that

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aside so the

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conservatives uh believe that they're

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keeping the government on its toes

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demonstrating corruption lack of

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transparency the Liberals believe that

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they're showing uh the conservatives for

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what they are people who are not talking

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about dayto day and they're happy when

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PV is not talking about bread and butter

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issues and the more that this issue goes

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on uh the more it stays inside the

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bubble frankly it it is not a conflict

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it is about something that most

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Canadians would see as something that is

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vital to their daily lives yeah the NDP

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is Happy enough because it gets to call

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the conservatives agents of Chaos in

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Parliament and that's pretty good if

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you're going to face the conservatives

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in many writings in an election and even

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the BL

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that I think rightly says neither the

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Liberals nor the conservatives want this

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to end did I mention it allows the

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Liberals to live for another day another

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week another three weeks um get the

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sense that they get more leverage I.E if

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the Liberals want this to

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stop then they would probably need

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either the mdp or the black to be on

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side for a closure motion and the BL is

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saying well give us what we have for and

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will help you end this dead end so I

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don't think there's any political will

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on any side of the house to end this I I

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I will say there is concern from what

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I've heard from the conservative side

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about that issue that Shantel signals

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there that you're not going to be

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talking about the things that matter to

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Canadians I think this is very hard to

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understand it's very hard to see how it

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relates to your life or why it matters

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Andrew well that's a sad comment and how

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far we've already let Parliament slip so

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it's true nobody cares what goes on in

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Parliament um one way we can start to

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make people care about Parliament is

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actually allowing Parliament to exercise

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some Powers it doesn't get any more

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fundamental than whether the

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government's going to obey the law or

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not supposing there was real corruption

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behind this I don't know if there is or

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not but the fact that the government can

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just endlessly Stonewall and and

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obstruct and cover up on these things is

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fundamental you know it's only a

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convention that we obey the law

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ultimately all of our system of

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government and our system of law depends

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upon people in the crunch actually

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obeying it and deciding to obey it Nixon

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even Nixon when the when the Supreme

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Court said you got to hand over the

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tapes hand it over the tapes uh he could

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have just said well come and get me so

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basically what Canadian government's

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both liberal and conservative been

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saying is come and get me Shartel and

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then Alia y yeah except that the the

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conservatives or the opposition parties

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are not judge and jury in this the RCMP

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is undergoing an investigation it does

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have the tools to get the documents and

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the notion that documents should Transit

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through a parliamentary committee uh to

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get to the RCMP is frankly not that's

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not in dispute I'm not I don't I don't

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disagree with that no but the the only

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reason for the phillybuster is to talk

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forever about a motion that says that

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this issue should be trashed out because

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it is a serious issue about the

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independence of the RCMP it's not no

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longer about governments not handing

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documents it's about the opposition

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making CH for the government can hand

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over the doc today okay okay Alia Alia

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gets the last word here Alia like

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everything there's policy and politics I

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agree with shanata on the politics I

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think the risk for the the conservatives

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is they are shooting themselves in the

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foot and frankly we're on day nine I

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really wonder if this is the privilege

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motion they want to talk about when we

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return from Thanksgiving or if they're

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going to bring in another frankly I

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think more scandalous privilege motion

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on the substance I mean Andrew raises

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some really good points but all of these

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points could be discussed in the

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committee the other issue which I think

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the Liberals are right to point out is

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if the RCMP says we can't even use these

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documents please don't give it them to

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us what if you have a constituent who

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has a criminal case against them and is

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like hey why don't you ask Parliament to

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get some documents because that might

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help me with my case like maybe there

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are things that we want our legislators

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to think things through and they can do

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that at committee and all of that can be

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done after the government has rendered

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the documents this no reason why they

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has to wait for for the commit egg Andre

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chicken

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egg that's the speaker's ruling to send

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it to a committee you know what we did

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there we made Canadians care with that

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vigorous debate at issue Pier PV was

Pierre Poilievre is silenced in the House

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silenced by the speaker for a day after

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attacking the Minister of Foreign

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Affairs Melanie Jolie twice she refused

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to condemn those remarks she continues

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to Pander to Hamas supporters in the

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liberal party as part of her leadership

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campaign rather than doing her job PV

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did not withdraw the remarks and Jolie

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fired back clearly what we're

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seeing is that PV is about double

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standards and he's about

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himself so what's to be made of Pier

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pov's remarks what challenges come with

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this strategy here to break all that

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down shant Telly bear Andrew coin ala

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Raj shant tell I'll start with you on

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this one um the these these attacks on

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on Melanie Jolie followed a uh very

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passionate but quite partisan speech

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that Pier PV made on Monday at a

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memorial for October 7th um and I'm sure

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that part of the idea was to to keep

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that sort of theme going for him what

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what did you make of the comments and

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the way he handled

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that um I'm not sure that uh if PV was a

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truck he would have a reverse uh gear

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I've seen no evidence of it so I'm

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surprised that he wouldn't withdraw

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comments um that being said I also find

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that he tends to always uh bring it a

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line too far and on this there are many

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things you can say about melan and

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Canada's stance uh difficult to pin down

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on the Israel amas issue but the notion

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that anyone in the House of Commons is

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pandering to amas supporters is a bit

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hard uh to swallow especially when it's

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framed as part of a leadership campaign

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I suspect that uh uh most people in

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Mill's writing would question whether

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the fact that there may not be

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pro-israel makes them Hamas and

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terrorist supporters so um it there is

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something to be said about being the

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aspiring prime minister and to be able

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to talk with some moderation about

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Foreign Affairs I do note that Mr PV

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also this week said that uh initially uh

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Israel should feel free to bomb nuclear

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installations uh in Iran no Ally of

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Canada that I know of is really

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promoting that line and it has now

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become that he meant that they should be

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able to Target nuclear weapons so I

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don't know if there's a file that

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requires a bit of moderation it may be

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that one yeah and I wondered what the

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risks of that is uh Andrew to to uh be

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so staunchly in in one camp and be

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willing to attack in on those grounds

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whether there's a risk politically for

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Mr P of there well he's obviously

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calculated the Rison uh I'm not sure

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that the Eternal equivocation of the

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liberal government has stood it very

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well politically or morally frankly uh

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I'm less con I mean yeah it's over the

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top he only has one gear I agree with

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everything Shantel said I'm less

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concerned with that in this particular

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instance than with the way it was

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handled by the speaker yeah um um the

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parliament is supposed to be a pretty

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free willing place people say things

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every day that are a little over the top

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hyperbolic Etc but it's the kind of

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place where you can say things that you

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couldn't say outside of parliament

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because you get sued for liable why

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because we want the people to be able to

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test the limits of debate we want them

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to prod things to get out uncomfortable

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truths and sometimes they get out in

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ways that are pretty unconventional in

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this particular case he did ask Melanie

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Julie a very direct and simple question

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would she disavow would she disown these

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appalling remarks that are being remarks

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chants that are being made at these

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rallies that have inre increasingly

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taken a tone that is not just Pro

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Palestine but anti-semitic and indeed

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Pro Hamas all she had to do it seems to

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me this was not a gotcha question was

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just denounce them instead she retreated

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into strange kind of prepared remarks

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that had been written for her and I

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think a fair-minded person could say

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what is the game that she's playing at

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that stage was his uh comeback in that

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well judged no but it seems to me that's

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the sort of thing that the court of

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public opinion uh can figure out rather

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than the speaker basically Banning him

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from speaking for a and I think I I

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would say the same thing about the

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speakers ruling in the case of Ivon

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Baker the liberal MP who talked about

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the Putin wing of the cons taking over

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the conservative party again Overkill

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but gets at something some questions

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that need to be answered by the

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conservatives

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Alia well I mean I think by Andrew

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mentioning the case of Ivon Baker you

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just answered you know why the speaker

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do this I don't know that if and Bon

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Baker had not gone public and noted to

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reporters you know a lot of us didn't

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even notice that he had been muted for

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the past six months for saying that

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there was a pro Putin Wing had taken

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over the conservative party the

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conservatives complain in the house and

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the speaker told them he wasn't going to

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be recognized so in order to have some

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consistency still like visible hypocrisy

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because it's not like Pier poo has been

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mut muted for six months there had to be

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some form of discipline in order to

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maintain some level of consistency and

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now lo and behold Ivon Baker's muzzle

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has been lifted so I think that's why

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there was that punishment against Mr PV

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on the substance yeah um I do agree with

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Andrew that uh melan Jolie the foreign

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affairs minister could have actually

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responded to the question and said

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something substantial I also do worry

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that with Mr Pia's so Ardent stance like

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very very Pro Netanyahu Israel stance

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and the painting of everybody who's

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protesting as Pro Hamas supporters how

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does that how does a leader bring

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different Canadians together after the

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fact because you can't just say all the

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people out there protesting on the

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streets because they're worried about

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their family members and their friends

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uh you know uh having no food and being

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bombed and dying and so many Canadians

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have family members that have died to

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say Oh no you're all Hamas supporter

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you're all terrorist supporters and I

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will not be a prime minister for you

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like that that raises a whole bunch of

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other questions in addition to the Iran

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nuclear stuff question that raises a lot

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of questions about does the prime does

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here prob as prime minister have a

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Nuance button uh when it comes to

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Foreign Affairs that wouldn't get us uh

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killed you know like you can't go around

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saying stuff like that well that is one

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type of an error the other type is

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turning a blind eye as this government

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appears to be doing to these

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increasingly unhinged protests and I can

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tell you there's a lot of Jews in this

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country who are terrified as a result

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and I have not seen a very strong stance

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from the government on that particular

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problem at all last word to they could

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be more vocal I agree with that last

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last word to you shanto so you asked

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about political risks to P I believe

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that he believes that it's paying off I

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think uh it stance as pro-israel St made

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the difference in the Toronto St Paul's

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byelection and I believe that the

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attempts of the Liberals to kind of

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straddle straddled The Divide caus them

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uh on the side of the equation the seat

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in Montreal the V seat so in the end

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there are yeah and as for Milan I don't

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think she came across as a Minister of

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Foreign Affairs in that uh exchange she

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looked like someone who was also trying

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to score partisan

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points the prime minister is set to

Foreign interference inquiry latest

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testify as the foreign interference

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inquiry wraps up next week it comes as

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his National Security adviser says there

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are no trees as MPS in the house despite

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warnings from the National Security and

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intelligence

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committee so what's to be made of these

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comments and why are they only being

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heard now here to break it down some

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more Shantel Andrew and Alia Andrew I'm

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totally going to start with you on this

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obviously um I mean we did for many

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months talk about potential traitors

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inside the House of Commons because of

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that report from enot from

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parliamentarians who were looking at

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information and now uh Natalie duu The

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New National Security adviser says no

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they're that that's that's not what's

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going on here there are people making

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mistakes bad judgment but not that what

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did you what did you make of that well

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she seem to be drawing a rather precious

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line first of all that that she wouldn't

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give them security clearance she

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wouldn't trust them they were Crossing

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Lines Etc but it didn't meet through the

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legal definition of treason I don't

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think that's really the issue I think

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the issue that was flagged by nsic cop

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and they certainly took a stronger line

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than she has and we'll have to see maybe

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the public inquiry can settle those

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differences I would only say it's of a

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piece with the kinds of views that the

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of the people the Prime Minister likes

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to surround himself with day after day

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in the foreign interference commission

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we've been hearing from senior officials

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in this government and in both the

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political and the bureaucratic side

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saying well you

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know the political the foreign

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interference didn't really meet that

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test or that that bit of intimidation

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wasn't really my job to prevent or I

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didn't pass the document on the Prime

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Minister because they didn't think he

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needed to see it uh um it's it's just

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continuing to to present this alarming

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position of a government and Senior

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officials of which who who kind of hear

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no evil and see no evil on this file in

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general so I can't say I'm totally

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surprised to hear his current national

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security adviser taking a similarly soft

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line on this but we'll have to wait and

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see what the inquiry finds out yeah I

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mean I I suppose you could also say Alia

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that that that she just has a different

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interpretation of the information than

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than enop had and is less concerned

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maybe than they were

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well enop talked about

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parliamentarians which includes senators

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and the way I interpreted her remarks

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she was talking about members of

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parliament so I guess you could say that

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maybe they're both right sure I do agree

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in the Nuance that she's making and I

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think what she's responding to is

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frankly what a lot of MPS themselves

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were worried about when this report

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landed that they were be you know they

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were looking at their neighbors

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wondering who was going to sell Adan

20:29

secrets and who could be trusted and who

20:30

could not be trusted and what she's

20:33

basically saying is like take a deep

20:36

breath you don't need to be worried

20:37

about the people sitting next to you

20:40

some people are quite naive some people

20:43

are doing things they shouldn't be doing

20:45

some people are saying things they

20:46

shouldn't be saying but you don't need

20:48

to worry that there is like somebody out

20:50

to sabotage Canadian interests or you

20:53

know like this isn't a movie from 60

20:56

years ago um so I do think there was

20:59

value I think at least for MPS in having

21:02

that message out and as far as why we

21:03

haven't heard it well she's a public

21:05

servant they don't really talk unless

21:07

they're compelled to yes right

21:11

Shel I I believe that neither of the

21:14

committee nor anyone else except In the

21:17

Heat of debate and the House of Commons

21:19

used the word treason which is a loaded

21:21

word and the test for defining treason

21:24

is a lot higher than I anything that uh

21:29

we have found out about what's in that

21:31

committee report or from the National

21:34

Security advisers that doesn't mean that

21:36

there aren't MPS who live dangerously

21:39

but that being said can we go back to

21:41

basics unless we are talking about

21:44

cabinet ministers and even they how many

21:47

MPS have secrets to share with foreign

21:51

entities they don't even have secrets to

21:54

share with

21:56

us I think she means National Security

21:58

Secrets just to be clear I mean MPS by

22:03

and large are kept in the dark by their

22:05

own parties and their own governments

22:07

about almost anything of significance

22:10

yeah there's there's lots of other ways

22:13

though that you can be serving in other

22:14

country's interests without selling

22:16

secrets for example asking questions in

22:18

Parliament that somebody's paid you to

22:20

ask yeah yeah uh okay opposition MPS uh

22:25

would be doing that it would be nice

22:27

then if the leader of the official

22:29

opposition got the security clearance

22:30

that allowed him to read the report to

22:32

find out if any of his members are doing

22:34

that okay I'm I'm going to leave it

22:36

there and we're I'm sure we're going to

22:38

talk about it next week because the

22:39

prime minister is in front of that

22:40

inquiry again next week thank you all

22:42

appreciate it that is at issue for this

22:44

week I'm Rosemary Barton thank you so

22:46

much for watching

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 Transcript 

0:02

you if you didn't see it you missed a

0:04

lot we're going to show you this clip in

0:05

just a second it's literally Pierre

0:08

poier standing up and saying Trudeau has

0:13

blatantly not listened to the speaker of

0:16

the house he has violated the rules of

0:18

the House of

0:20

Commons and um there's $400 million

0:24

that's missing and he won't say where

0:27

it's gone so let's watch this clip right

0:31

now honorable leader of the

0:33

opposition tax Carney at the moment of

0:36

his appointment at the as the head of

0:38

the economic task force of this

0:39

government said he wanted to do

0:41

something and not be something so what

0:43

has he done well he's now sending out

0:46

fundraising letters to raise cash for

0:48

the Liberal Party two he's asked for $10

0:51

billion of corporate welfare to help his

0:54

multinational corporation take over the

0:56

Pension funds of Canadians and he's got

0:59

his pal a $2 billion loan did the Prime

1:03

Minister yes or no clear all of these

1:07

actions of carbon tax Carney with the

1:09

lobbying

1:11

commissioner great honorable prime

1:14

minister Mr Speaker one of the things

1:16

we're seeing right across the country

1:19

are experts and people who've succeeded

1:21

in all sorts of different backgrounds

1:23

stepping up to push back against the

1:26

cuts and little vision uh that the Li

1:30

the conservative party has been putting

1:32

forward the fact is the leader of the

1:34

opposition is offering cuts to Services

1:37

the Canadians are relying on and

1:40

offering tax breaks to the wealthiest

1:42

like conservatives always do we're there

1:45

to invest for every generation no wonder

1:48

Canadians from all backgrounds are

1:49

stepping up to be part of pushing back

1:52

against that conservative leader

2:01

The Honorable leader of the opposition

2:03

you Mr Speaker have said that this prime

2:06

minister is violating the rules of the

2:09

house by refusing to hand over sdtc

2:13

documents on a corporate Ware Scandal of

2:17

$400 million that the auditor general

2:20

says involved 186 conflict of interest

2:24

where bureaucrats top officials in this

2:27

liberal government were giving millions

2:29

of dollars to their own companies will

2:32

the Prime Minister hand over the

2:34

information to the police and if not

2:36

what's he got to

2:41

hide the right honorable prime minister

2:44

Mr Speaker the conservative leader just

2:46

mentioned both the police and the

2:48

auditor general let me say what they

2:50

have said both the RCMP and the auditor

2:54

general have raised concerns about how

2:57

this motion jeopardizes their

3:00

Independence in serving Canadians right

3:03

the conservative party wants to play

3:05

politics with Canadians Charter rights

3:09

we will not support

3:12

[Applause]

3:16

that The Honorable leader of the

3:18

opposition so his idea of a charter

3:20

right is that you have the right as a

3:23

top government executive to take $400

3:26

million of other people's money and give

3:29

to your own company and then hide the

3:32

criminal evidence from the

3:35

police Mr Speaker Canadians have the

3:38

charter right to know where their money

3:40

went so will the Prime Minister accept

3:43

your order and the vote of this house to

3:46

turn over the documents to the police so

3:48

that we can put the bad guys in jail and

3:50

get back the money that was

3:58

stolen honorable prime minister speaker

4:02

once again the conservative party has

4:05

demonstrated that it is uh willing to

4:08

upend the independence of Institutions

4:11

like the RCMP and the auditor general

4:13

for political gain that is what they are

4:16

proposing to do they want a direct

4:19

investigations they want control over

4:22

over judicial processes uh in their

4:25

details the reality is Mr Speaker that's

4:29

banana public style behavior that the

4:31

conservative party is pushing we will

4:34

always stand up for Canadians Charter

4:36

rights and the independence of our

4:38

[Applause]

4:40

institutions $400 million like yeah he's

4:47

everybody has has the right to know

4:48

where that money's gone like oh my gosh

4:52

I'm stunned right now at the amount of

4:55

corruption in our government system it's

4:59

just wrong on a ton of different levels

5:02

anyway guys like And subscribe leave us

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