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Thursday, May 7, 2026
Pope Leo XIV Just Sent Trump a Message Through Rubio — An Olive Branch
Pope Leo XIV Just Sent Trump a Message Through Rubio —
Today, May 7, 2026 — the day before Pope Leo XIV's first anniversary
as Pope — U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio walked into the Vatican
for a private 45-minute meeting with the first American Pope in history.
The meeting came days after President Trump attacked Leo personally,
falsely claiming the Pope was "okay with Iran having nuclear weapons."
What was said? What was agreed? What does it mean for the Church,
for the war in Iran, and for the relationship between Washington
and the Vatican?
In this video, we break it all down — with the official Vatican
statement, the State Department readout, and a Catholic reading
of what this moment really means.
TRANSCRIPTS
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This morning in the private library of the apostolic palace, two Catholics sat down at a table. One of them is the
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Secretary of State of the most powerful nation on earth, the son of Cuban immigrants, a man who carries his rosary
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and attends mass, Marco Rubio. The other is the first American pope in history. a
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man who just 48 hours earlier had told the world that the church's mission is to preach the gospel and peace and that
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anyone who wants to criticize him for that should do so with the truth. Pope
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Leo I 14th 45 minutes a private conversation and a meeting that almost
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every major news outlet on the planet was watching. What happened? What does it mean? And what does it tell us as
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Catholics about where the church and the world stand right now? Let's find out.
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To understand the significance of this morning's meeting, you need to understand what led to it. For the past
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several weeks, the relationship between the Vatican and the White House has been, to use the Washington Post's
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words, at a low point. The United States and Israel have been conducting military operations against Iran. The conflict has escalated significantly.
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Thousands of civilians have been killed.
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The Middle East is in a state of profound instability.
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Pope Leo I 14th has been one of the most consistent and vocal critics of this war. He has called the civilian toll unacceptable.
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He has condemned the delusion of omnipotence that he says is fueling the conflict. He has demanded that political leaders return to negotiation.
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He has said that threatening to destroy an entire civilization crosses a fundamental moral line. President Trump did not appreciate this. Last month,
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Trump published an extraordinary attack on the Pope on Truth Social, calling him weak on crime and terrible for foreign
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policy. He told a radio host that the Pope would rather talk about the fact that it's okay for Iran to have a
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nuclear weapon, a claim that was factually false, and that Leo rebutted directly two days ago at Castell Gandalfo.
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Trump also said Leo was endangering a lot of Catholics and he told the Pope to
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get his act together and stop catering to the radical left. Into this climate,
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tense, public, unprecedented in its directness, Marco Rubio flew to Rome.
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asked by reporters whether he was going to the Vatican to smooth things over with the Pope. Rubio said the trip had been planned before and acknowledged,
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"Obviously, we had some stuff that happened." He added, "There's a lot to talk about with the Vatican
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this morning." They talked. Rubio arrived at the San Damaso courtyard in the Vatican at around 11 in the morning,
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Rome time. Tight security. The Vadella Consilia, the great avenue leading to St. Peter's Square, was completely
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empty. He was received by Archbishop Petar Rajic, the prefect of the papal household. The American ambassador to
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the Holy Sea, Brian Burch, accompanied him. As Rubio's motorcade entered the Vatican, the convoy of Polish Prime
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Minister Donald Tusk, who had also met the Pope that morning, was leaving. By just a few seconds, the two groups did
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not cross paths. Rubio was escorted to the Pope's private library, the intimate room where Leo receives distinguished visitors who are not heads of state.
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They shook hands. They stood for official photographs and then they sat at the side of the table and talked. The
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Vatican's official communique published by the Holy Sea Press Office described the conversations as cordial. It
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confirmed that the shared commitment to fostering sound bilateral relations between the Holy Sea and the United
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States was reaffirmed. It noted that views were exchanged regarding situations on the regional and
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international levels with particular attention given to countries experiencing war, political tensions and
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difficult humanitarian situations as well as the need to work tirelessly for peace, precise, careful, diplomatic.
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But the Vatican news account and the reports from America magazine and other Catholic sources with contacts inside
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the Vatican filled in more of the picture. The topics discussed included
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the wars in Iran, Lebanon, and Gaza, the war in Ukraine, the humanitarian
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situation in Cuba, concerns about religious freedom around the world. A senior Vatican official told America
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magazine that they wanted to discuss the wars in Cuba with Rubio. Cardinal Paralin who met Rubio separately after
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the papal audience was direct. These conflicts cannot be resolved by force. They are resolved through negotiation.
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Dialogue is needed. Perolan also took the opportunity to debunk clearly and publicly Trump's false claim about the
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Pope's position on nuclear weapons. The Holy Sea has always worked for nuclear disarmament. We have ratified the UN
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treaty on the prohibition of nuclear weapons.
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The meeting lasted approximately 45 minutes with the Pope. Rubio then spent additional time with Cardinal Perilin
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and Archbishop Paul Gallagher, Secretary for Relations with States. In total, he was inside the apostolic palace for more
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than 2 hours. Before leaving, there was the traditional exchange of gifts. Rubio
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gave the Pope a small crystal rugby ball with the seal of the State Department and said with a smile, "You're a
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baseball guy." Leo accepted it with warmth. And then he gave Rubio three gifts. A book of photographs of the
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apostolic palace reception rooms, a volume of photographs of the cysteine chapel, and a wooden pen made from olive
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wood. The olive, the pope said, is a plant of peace.
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After leaving the Vatican, Rubio posted on X met with at Pontifax to underscore
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our shared commitment to promoting peace and human dignity. The State Department spokesman Tommy Pigot issued a statement
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saying the meeting underscored the strong relationship between the United States and the Holy Sea and their shared
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commitment to promoting peace and human dignity. He added that discussions reflected the enduring partnership
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between the United States and the Holy Sea in advancing religious freedom. The Vatican's statement, as we have noted,
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spoke of cordial talks, sound bilateral relations, and the need to work tirelessly for peace. What is striking
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about both statements is what they share. The language of peace, of partnership, of human dignity. And what
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they do not say, there is no mention of Iran specifically, no mention of nuclear weapons, no mention of the Trump attacks
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on the Pope, no public disagreement, no public victory for either side. This is diplomacy.
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It is by its nature the art of finding shared ground without resolving every underlying tension. But the underlying tension is real and both sides know it.
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Trump himself, even as Rubio was flying to Rome, doubled down. He told reporters that he had sent Rubio to deliver a very
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simple message. Iran must not obtain a nuclear weapon. The Pope's position has not changed. The church's position,
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opposition to all nuclear weapons, not just Iran's, has not changed. What
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changed today is the tone. The channel is open. The conversation is happening.
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And for the church, that is not nothing.
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Let's step back from the diplomacy and ask the question that matters most for a Catholic audience.
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What does this morning mean? Three things stand out. First, the Pope did
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not move. In the weeks of Trump's attacks, Leo I 14th never softened his language about the war, never retracted
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his calls for peace, never suggested that perhaps the American position had some merit he had previously overlooked.
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He stated his position clearly at Castell Gandalfo on Tuesday. And this morning when Rubio arrived, the Pope received him with warmth and courtesy.
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But Cardinal Pilene made clear the Vatican's position had not changed. This is what moral authority looks like. Not aggression, not stubbornness,
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but clarity, consistency, and the willingness to receive anyone at the table, including those who disagree without abandoning the truth.
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Second, the relationship matters. The United States and the Holy Sea have been partners for decades on humanitarian
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aid, on religious freedom, on development in the global south, on crisis mediation. The Vatican relies on
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that partnership. The United States relies on it, too. Cuba is a perfect example. The Trump administration has
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channeled $6 million in humanitarian aid through Keratas Cuba, the Catholic Church's charitable arm on the island.
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The church is a delivery mechanism for American goodwill in places where American power cannot reach. That
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partnership is too important to sacrifice on the altar of political confrontation.
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Both sides know this. The meeting this morning was in part a recognition of that reality. Third, the olive branch is always first. The Pope's gift to Rubio,
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an olivewood pen, was not accidental. It was a message. You came here representing a government that has
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attacked me personally and misrepresented my position. I receive you. I offer you courtesy. I give you an
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olive branch. And I keep saying what I have always said. This is profoundly Augustinian.
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Augustine wrote that even in the earthly city, even in the midst of political conflict, war and power, the Christian
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must remain a builder of peace. Not by pretending that conflicts do not exist,
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but by never closing the door. By always leaving the table open. Leo I 14th left
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the table open this morning. The olive pen said it better than any communicate.
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There is one more dimension to this story that cannot be overlooked.
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Tomorrow, May 8th, 2026 is the first anniversary of Pope Leo I 14th's election. On May 8th, 2025,
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white smoke rose over the cyine chapel.
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Robert Francis Pvost walked onto the balcony and said, "Peace be with you."
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One year later, on the day before that anniversary, he received the Secretary of State of the United States, a meeting
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made necessary in part by the fact that he has spent 12 months saying exactly what he said on that first night, peace.
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The Washington Post described the relationship between the Vatican and the White House as at a low point. CNN noted
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that this was the first known meeting between a member of the Trump administration and Leo in almost a year.
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Almost a year of silence between the American Pope and the American government. broken today by a meeting
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that produced in the official record cordial words and an olivewood pen. It
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is not a resolution, but it is a beginning of something or a continuation of something that never fully broke. And
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tomorrow, when Leo I 14th marks one year in the chair of Peter, he will do so having spent that year exactly as he said he would, preaching the gospel,
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calling for peace, refusing to be silent, and leaving the table open even
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for those who have attacked him. In the end, what does a Catholic make of all
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this? Not despair, not cynicism, and not naive optimism either. What we see in
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today's meeting is the church doing what the church has always done at its best,
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being present in the places of tension without belonging to any side, holding the door open, refusing to choose
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between fidelity to the gospel and engagement with the world.
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The Pope received Marco Rubio with the same warmth with which he receives everyone. He did not lecture. He did not
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condemn. He talked. He listened. He gave an olive branch. And then in the
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afternoon, Cardinal Perilin stood in front of journalists and said calmly and clearly, "These conflicts cannot be resolved by force. Dialogue is needed.
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The Holy Sea has always worked for nuclear disarmament.
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Nothing had changed. Everything had been said again. This is the church that Pope
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Leo I 14th is building. Not a church that shouts from the sidelines. Not a church that makes itself comfortable by
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staying silent, but a church that stays at the table, patient, clear,
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consistent, and keeps offering the olive branch, even when the other side is not yet ready to take it. Tomorrow is the
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first anniversary, one year of this pope, one year of this witness. If this video helped you understand what
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happened today and what it means, share it.
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This is exactly the kind of Catholic journalism that gets lost in the noise of political headlines.
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Subscribe to Catholic Snack and tell me in the comments what do you make of the Pope's approach to Trump and the war in
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Iran. Do you think he is right to speak this clearly? I want to know your thoughts. God bless you. And tomorrow,
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